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		<title>By: bark &#187; No. 7: Be kind to children, old people and your creditors</title>
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		<dc:creator>bark &#187; No. 7: Be kind to children, old people and your creditors</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 14:37:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] one thing, there’s the matter of my aforementioned creative writing class at the alternative school. And we’ve had some fun here at Bark with lists [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Shawn Vestal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shawn Vestal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 00:41:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks...and i&#039;m curious. i haven&#039;t seen that, though the magazine is here somewhere...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks&#8230;and i&#8217;m curious. i haven&#8217;t seen that, though the magazine is here somewhere&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: melissa lindstrum</title>
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		<dc:creator>melissa lindstrum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 23:43:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shawn,

I don&#039;t know how much poetry you&#039;re doing, but one way I&#039;ve tricked my H.S. students into writing detailed, fantastic-image-ridden poems is by showing them some performance poetry clips. Marc Bamuthi Joseph and Maggie Estep (look up &quot;Emotional Idiot&quot;) are both good. My students seem to like the mix of angst and image. Then we look at some of the &quot;page&quot; poets. Some they&#039;ve liked so far are Ntozake Shange, Cornelius Eady, and there&#039;s this poem called &quot;Crater Face&quot; but I can&#039;t remember who wrote it. But they love the Drano on the face in that poem. They are still talking about it. And these poems have encouraged them to explore similar angst/image experiences in their own teenage lives. Hope this helps! I&#039;d be interested to hear a follow-up from you and new strategies, readings, and activities you&#039;ve implemented. I&#039;m always looking for suggestions, too. 

p.s. I saw a little blurb about you in the Eastern alumni magazine. Congrats!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shawn,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know how much poetry you&#8217;re doing, but one way I&#8217;ve tricked my H.S. students into writing detailed, fantastic-image-ridden poems is by showing them some performance poetry clips. Marc Bamuthi Joseph and Maggie Estep (look up &#8220;Emotional Idiot&#8221;) are both good. My students seem to like the mix of angst and image. Then we look at some of the &#8220;page&#8221; poets. Some they&#8217;ve liked so far are Ntozake Shange, Cornelius Eady, and there&#8217;s this poem called &#8220;Crater Face&#8221; but I can&#8217;t remember who wrote it. But they love the Drano on the face in that poem. They are still talking about it. And these poems have encouraged them to explore similar angst/image experiences in their own teenage lives. Hope this helps! I&#8217;d be interested to hear a follow-up from you and new strategies, readings, and activities you&#8217;ve implemented. I&#8217;m always looking for suggestions, too. </p>
<p>p.s. I saw a little blurb about you in the Eastern alumni magazine. Congrats!</p>
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		<title>By: Shira Richman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shira Richman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 05:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another part I forgot to mention is that I make the students lead the discussions. Another Chris Howell trick. And it is working BEAUTIFULLY with my developmental students and with the engineers. Of course, I get to jump in and push the conversation wherever I want whenever I want, but the students are reading more carefully, taking more responsibility and initiative in the discussions, and they want to help each other out. Plus they are likely worried that no one will talk when they are in the lead if they don&#039;t talk when someone else is in the lead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another part I forgot to mention is that I make the students lead the discussions. Another Chris Howell trick. And it is working BEAUTIFULLY with my developmental students and with the engineers. Of course, I get to jump in and push the conversation wherever I want whenever I want, but the students are reading more carefully, taking more responsibility and initiative in the discussions, and they want to help each other out. Plus they are likely worried that no one will talk when they are in the lead if they don&#8217;t talk when someone else is in the lead.</p>
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		<title>By: Shawn Vestal</title>
		<link>http://thebarking.com/2010/02/to-sir-with-mild-disinterest-and-my-ipod-earbuds-in-place/comment-page-1/#comment-858</link>
		<dc:creator>Shawn Vestal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 04:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you know, the outside work thing is a real issue here. I&#039;m not the official teacher, I&#039;m technically a volunteer and the teacher of record created and described the class to the students basically without me. long story...but anyway, he&#039;s now gone and i&#039;m kind of doing my own thing. these kids are plenty smart and able, and i feel like they&#039;re getting used to being handled with kid gloves or something....they know they can get away with a lot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you know, the outside work thing is a real issue here. I&#8217;m not the official teacher, I&#8217;m technically a volunteer and the teacher of record created and described the class to the students basically without me. long story&#8230;but anyway, he&#8217;s now gone and i&#8217;m kind of doing my own thing. these kids are plenty smart and able, and i feel like they&#8217;re getting used to being handled with kid gloves or something&#8230;.they know they can get away with a lot.</p>
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		<title>By: Shawn Vestal</title>
		<link>http://thebarking.com/2010/02/to-sir-with-mild-disinterest-and-my-ipod-earbuds-in-place/comment-page-1/#comment-857</link>
		<dc:creator>Shawn Vestal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 04:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that is awesome. and thanks for the good ideas</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that is awesome. and thanks for the good ideas</p>
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		<title>By: Shawn Vestal</title>
		<link>http://thebarking.com/2010/02/to-sir-with-mild-disinterest-and-my-ipod-earbuds-in-place/comment-page-1/#comment-856</link>
		<dc:creator>Shawn Vestal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 04:04:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thank you all very much. there are tons of great ideas here...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thank you all very much. there are tons of great ideas here&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Shira Richman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shira Richman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 23:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know it is not original (The Onion recently made fun of teachers that assign it), but I loved &quot;The Lottery&quot; by Shirley Jackson when I first read it. Other favorites in high school or thereabouts were &quot;The Open Window&quot; by Saki and &quot;The Story of an Hour&quot; by Kate Chopin. I liked dark and mysterious.

Students in developmental college writing class have been known not to do outside reading, but mine seem to be doing it this semester with the introduction of the reading journal. Chris Howell assigns them. Naturally the reading notebook assignment I give has to be far more structured than the one he gives. 

My students have to be prepared to tell me the main idea of the essay (we&#039;re reading essays from the New York Times Writers on Writing series) and the key details that support the main idea. Then they get to choose from a more creative list of things to write about--one is to imagine a narrative, what happened to the writer that made him or her sit down to write this essay--to what or whom the writer is responding in writing this piece. I have been THRILLED by how carefully my students are doing the reading. And I act like I expect them to do it. That is vital. They read our expectations. Students of all sorts tend to be very good at that kind of reading.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know it is not original (The Onion recently made fun of teachers that assign it), but I loved &#8220;The Lottery&#8221; by Shirley Jackson when I first read it. Other favorites in high school or thereabouts were &#8220;The Open Window&#8221; by Saki and &#8220;The Story of an Hour&#8221; by Kate Chopin. I liked dark and mysterious.</p>
<p>Students in developmental college writing class have been known not to do outside reading, but mine seem to be doing it this semester with the introduction of the reading journal. Chris Howell assigns them. Naturally the reading notebook assignment I give has to be far more structured than the one he gives. </p>
<p>My students have to be prepared to tell me the main idea of the essay (we&#8217;re reading essays from the New York Times Writers on Writing series) and the key details that support the main idea. Then they get to choose from a more creative list of things to write about&#8211;one is to imagine a narrative, what happened to the writer that made him or her sit down to write this essay&#8211;to what or whom the writer is responding in writing this piece. I have been THRILLED by how carefully my students are doing the reading. And I act like I expect them to do it. That is vital. They read our expectations. Students of all sorts tend to be very good at that kind of reading.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete Sheehy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete Sheehy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 18:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anything subversive, ideally with some sex and violence thrown in, will probably grab them.  I have a 14 year old in my class who hadn&#039;t been to school since he was 11 and had been living in a car with his drug-addicted father for 3 years.  He thought reading was &quot;faggy.&quot;  I gave him a copy of &quot;Manchild In The Promised Land,&quot; and he loved it.  Your post made me think of Charles D&#039;Ambrosio&#039;s &quot;American Bullfrog,&quot; as something that might hook your kids.

An exercise I like to use with young people is to assign them to eavesdrop on adults and write down ten lines of dialogue (preferably from different conversations) and then use them to build a narrative (though it could easily be used to build a poem as well).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anything subversive, ideally with some sex and violence thrown in, will probably grab them.  I have a 14 year old in my class who hadn&#8217;t been to school since he was 11 and had been living in a car with his drug-addicted father for 3 years.  He thought reading was &#8220;faggy.&#8221;  I gave him a copy of &#8220;Manchild In The Promised Land,&#8221; and he loved it.  Your post made me think of Charles D&#8217;Ambrosio&#8217;s &#8220;American Bullfrog,&#8221; as something that might hook your kids.</p>
<p>An exercise I like to use with young people is to assign them to eavesdrop on adults and write down ten lines of dialogue (preferably from different conversations) and then use them to build a narrative (though it could easily be used to build a poem as well).</p>
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		<title>By: Dan J. Vice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan J. Vice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 18:38:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Bullet in the Brain&quot; is a good call. We&#039;ve read it with the high-schoolers at the Institute both summers. I know the group is slightly different, because they&#039;re the kind of HS students who do their work and go to writing camp, but that story is so engaging in so many ways.

Other stories we used last summer that you might consider: &quot;Emergency,&quot; Dybek&#039;s &quot;Death of the Right Fielder,&quot; and Aimee Bender&#039;s &quot;Off&quot; (are there any girls in there?).

On the other note: I gave my brother-in-law &lt;i&gt;The Quotable Douchebag&lt;/i&gt; for Christmas. It&#039;s a good book for someone who doesn&#039;t read books.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Bullet in the Brain&#8221; is a good call. We&#8217;ve read it with the high-schoolers at the Institute both summers. I know the group is slightly different, because they&#8217;re the kind of HS students who do their work and go to writing camp, but that story is so engaging in so many ways.</p>
<p>Other stories we used last summer that you might consider: &#8220;Emergency,&#8221; Dybek&#8217;s &#8220;Death of the Right Fielder,&#8221; and Aimee Bender&#8217;s &#8220;Off&#8221; (are there any girls in there?).</p>
<p>On the other note: I gave my brother-in-law <i>The Quotable Douchebag</i> for Christmas. It&#8217;s a good book for someone who doesn&#8217;t read books.</p>
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